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How do we know if a dialogue sounds unnatural without asking for feedback?

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I wrote a dialogue, but I am not sure if it sounds natural. I try to keep dialogue super simple so that it doesn't feel unnatural, but aside from that, I am not sure if there's any golden rule I can follow to make sure the dialogue I write doesn't sound off.

Here's a small excerpt of what I wrote recently.

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Then I would have to shine the Bat Signal into the sky.

Haha, yeah right. I'll be around the neighborhood if you need me. I might have to leave by the end of the month, so call me if you want to hang out. Cya!

I am not sure, but laughing and then saying goodbye immediately sounds unnatural, but the exchange is 2 pages long so I felt the need to cut it short, but it sounds unnatural a bit I feel like. Sounds almost like a dialogue from The Room (2003).

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Characters seem natural when they pursue their goals in a way that is consistent with their values. (Their actual values, not necessarily the values they give lip service to for the sake of social acceptance.) Characters seem natural when they act this way because that is how human beings act.

The problem with dialogue is that often the author is trying to accomplish something else as well: drop some information on the reader or move the plot along. In pursuit of those goals, they make characters say (and often do) things which do not promote their goals in a way that is consistent with their values. And when they do that, the dialogue sounds unnatural.

The litmus test here is actually pretty simple, as long as you understand your characters well enough to know what their goals and their values are. Simply ask, of everything you have them do or say, is that what a person with these values would do to pursue these goals in this situation? If the answer is yes, then the dialogue or action will seem natural. If it is no, nothing you can do will make it seem natural.

And, of course, if you don't understand your characters goals and values, you will never be able to make their actions or dialogue seem natural.

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Sometimes you don't.

You can (and should) read it out loud to yourself. But there really isn't a substitute for having other people listen to it. In my critique group, we read a portion of our piece when we present. Sometimes I find myself cringing at my dialogue. Stuff that sounded so good in my head. Other times it sounds okay to me but my fellow group members disagree.

If you don't have a critique group, rope in family and friends. If that doesn't work, try some open mike nights (for creative writing, not songwriting). Even if no one gives feedback, the act of reading it out loud can tell you what you need to know. Do you stumble over it? Are you embarrassed to say it? Or does it bring up emotions? the right ones?

If you can't find places to read your work, read it to yourself. Or tape yourself reading it then listen to the tape. Follow along on your printout and circle anything that sounds off.

There's no shortcut. Sometimes we can do all this in our heads but, more often, we just think we can.

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Your goal here is to engage your intuition in ways that will help you assess your own, written work. (Everything in this answer applies to your dialogue, but also to all your writing in general).

Our intuitions sometimes work in surprising ways. You can get to understand this process to some extent, but never completely, so it's good to 1) have some standard tricks to use, but also 2) try new exercises on a hunch, to discover what works for you.

Compare this to how we communicate to the reader. For instance, "show don't tell" is all about engaging the intuition. "Telling" provides some information directly, requiring very little processing on the reader's part. So, the reader's intuition is not engaged. "Showing" provides this information indirectly, often subconsciously, and the reader's intuition is engaed in order to process it. In the latter case, the information sinks in more deeply, and is subjected less to disbelief caused by conscious awareness that this is just a story.

How can you do something similar for yourself?

Start simply by reading your dialogue out loud (and, for that matter, your entire story): read it to yourself. Next, you may not have a writing group, but find a willing friend and read it to them--you don't even need to ask for feedback.

I found reading to a friend to be radically different from reading out loud on my own. As I read to the friend, my intuition was suddenly engaged, I was "identifying" with the "experience" of my listener, and suddenly I was much more critical of my words, more sensitive to the effect they would have on an audience.

There are more tricks.

  • Use a TTS programme (text to speech) to have your computer read your text to you. This engages your intuition differently, and provides you with a different point of view of your work.

  • Post a chapter of your writing online. With the work being "out there", suddenly you yourself will see it differently. Re-read it on the website where you posted it.

  • Read a chapter you have written, trying to select a single page or paragraph that you will read to a friend or post online for critique. Thinking about what selection to make will engage your critical thinking and give you a new point of view.

  • Write a pretend sales pitch to a publisher, where you praise your own writing and provide a sample of it (I'm not saying this is actually a good way to pitch writing to a publisher). Incidentally, I myself hate sales, so it is painful to do this. But, once more, new point of view, new way to engage the intuition.

  • Write a story in a story. The characters in the "outer" story tell eachother an "inner" story. Have different characters in the "outer" story respond differently to the dialogue in the "inner" story.

  • Re-write your text, changing between 1st and 3rd person PoV, but using the same dialogue.

  • Get a friend to read your text to you.

Having said all this, getting feedback is extremely valuable. If at all possible, try to do that too, when you and your writing are ready to move on to that stage.

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