What are the standard genre characteristics of contemporary women's fantasy [closed]
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I want to write a fantasy novel with a female protagonist, and I want to familiarize myself with reader expectations. Is there still a tradition of (medieval-type) fantasy by and for women, and what are its prototypical themes and plot?
Or, in other words:
When a woman picks up a fantasy novel with a female protagonist today – and that is all she knows – what would she expect?
I am NOT looking for writing advice. What I want is to understand current conventions and reader expectations in contemporary female-protagonist fantasy fiction. I do not want to write such a fantasy, but I want to understand – as I believe every author should – the genre they are writing in, because even if you create your own version of that genre, your novel will be read in the context of those conventions.
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The roles of male and female protagonists in classic fantasy fiction were distinctly different. The male hero was a warrior who went on a quest and killed his opponents, while the female heroine was a witch or priestess who had to discover her innate powers and heal a rift in the world. The male hero had to journey outwards and fight physically; the female heroine had to journey inwards, into the mystery of herself, and fight psych(olog)ically.
In the wake of the women's movement, fantasy heroines in the Seventies and early Eighties began to take on male roles. A typical example is the short story "Northern Chess" by Tanith Lee in which a female warrior overcomes the ghost of an evil sorcerer who had cast a curse that "no man" would be able to overcome – forgetting women.
Later, during the pseudo-historic wave in fantasy of the late Eighties and early Nineties, much of female written fantasy portrayed members of the aristocracy and their intrigues, showing powerful, powerhungry, and ruthless women manipulating the men around them much in the way the Queens of the past have done.
In the same time, fantasy for male readers has mostly remained true to the swordwielding and questing heroes of the past. From Tolkien to Robert Jordan, companions have overcome evil, and from Robert E. Howard to David Gemmell, barbarians have battled and killed.
The female in a male role has stayed active in fiction for young adult readers. Today, YA books with female leads are often classic male fantasy with the male protagonist replaced by a female one. For example, The Hunger Games, has a plot very much identical to Conan the Barbarian: Doom kills Conan's people and takes him into slavery. Conan escapes, fulfills a quest, returns to the temple, and kills Doom. Similarly, Snow enslaves Katniss' people and takes her away from home as a kind of fighting slave. Katniss fulfills a quest, returns to the capital, and kills Snow.
But The Hunger Games isn't fantasy. I haven't read much fantasy in recent years, and looking at the market today, it seems to me that fantasy for female readers has been largely replaced by dystopia, urban fantasy, vampire romance, steampunk, and other new genres. There are still male heroes battling and questing, and there are some female warriors, some witches, and some queens. But I don't see much of that, and nothing new.
As my name probably makes clear, I'm not female. However I'm a keen reader of fantasy and SF, and I'm particularly inter …
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"When a woman picks up a fantasy novel with a female protagonist today – and that is all she knows – what would she exp …
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What the female reader expects to see is a good story without gender stereotypes or sexism. Lauren's advice applies. Fe …
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This is an interesting question, and while I don't believe there is a "prototypical" plot, let me try to find the answer …
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As a female reader of SF/F who enjoys fantasy books with protagonists of whatever gender and plot, my advice is: Make i …
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What the female reader expects to see is a good story without gender stereotypes or sexism.
Lauren's advice applies. Female readers are going to be very sensitive to sexist tropes and female stereotypes perpetuated by male-dominated religions, governments and other institutions, related to personal relationships, mathematical or scientific ability, physical weakness, their menstrual cycles, their roles in sex, or objectification; e.g. your female lead is the most desirable woman in the world!
Male authors sometimes give women power by having a man back her up; the queen is obeyed because the king says so, even if the king is elderly and weak as a kitten and could not fight his way out of a paper bag!
Avoid any fear of battle or injury greater than you'd give a male, and avoid tokenism (having ONE female in the central cast surrounded by men, with all other females in the story props or 'the normal females').
Like a male hero, a female hero should have flaws that cause her problems; a woman without any flaws that is better than men or women in everything is boring.
But flaws are NOT disabilities: Flaws must be something she can overcome mentally, like arrogance, not things like physical size or height. Both genders can have disabilities, but the female disabilities should not be relative to a man or involve female stereotypes, like a lack of courage, or hormonal fluctuations, or a desire to be nurturing or to be a parent.
And finally, don't try the excuse of a lesbian female hero thinking that this lets you write her as you would a male hero. It doesn't. Presume the one and only difference for a lesbian is that she prefers women for sex. Do not presume that single commonality with heterosexual men makes her one of them.
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This is an interesting question, and while I don't believe there is a "prototypical" plot, let me try to find the answer by defining a contrast between typical male and typical female protagonist. I beg everybody's pardon in advance if my generalization will look offensive. Please keep in mind that the following is my personal observation of genre's tropes and by no means an advice to follow these trends.
- Female protagonist usually starts from a weaker position than a male protagonist. While both genders can find themselves in a bit of trouble early in a story, boys more often than girls find the ability to turn the situation in their favor starting from the very beginning. Stereotypical situation is when female protagonist is controlled by an evil figure like stepmother, and there is nothing that she can do until she gets an outside help or makes an important discovery;
- Female protagonist is often established as somehow exceptional from the very beginning. It can be a noble birth, or unique talent, but then the protagonist is falling on hard times despite (or because of) this special distinction. Boys, by contrast, often start as total commoners and only later reveal special talents or royal blood;
- Female protagonist is more often driven by passion or compassion than by a need of ultimate justice or out of competitive spirit;
- Romance plays a greater role. While modern heroine is no longer a "Damsel in Distress" who needs a Prince Charming to rescue her, there's still a need for a male who is in some respect stronger than the protagonist. By the way, having a lesbian protagonist is not entirely out of question;
- During Hero's Journey, female protagonist finds new strength, but she still remains gentle and vulnerable at some level.
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As my name probably makes clear, I'm not female. However I'm a keen reader of fantasy and SF, and I'm particularly interested in anyone with new things to say, because the power of fantasy and SF is the ability to run fascinating thought experiments. So some of my favourites are from Sheri Tepper, Ursula LeGuin, Katherine Kerr, Margaret Atwood, Hilary Mantel, Emily St John Mandel, and no doubt more. Those are the ones I can think of immediately.
It should be immediately clear that none of them are doing anything similar, except writing damn good books with compelling characters, some of whom are female.
There are men who also write strong female characters. Neal Stephenson and Charles Stross, for example. (Stross also has a diverse set of sexualities for his characters too.) And of course Scott Lynch has this brilliant response to a reader who objected that a woman could not possibly be a pirate captain. Don't make the mistake that authors can only write well for their own gender - good authors are not limited by that.
More of those kinds of things, please. Create characters we can believe in, set them in a world we can believe in, and present them with events we can believe in (or at least suspend disbelief because they are internally consistent). And have a high standard of wordsmithing, because writing is an art.
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"When a woman picks up a fantasy novel with a female protagonist today – and that is all she knows – what would she expect?"
I expect growth in characters regardless of gender and I don't care (too much) where they start on the competency scale. But they'd better end up further along, through insight, and trial and error.
I'm most happy when a character's strength is recognized not in traditional terms - but rather in a variety of possible other manifestations.
In particular, I most enjoy those female protagonists that have strengths in the following areas:
- Resilience
- Cleverness
- Stamina / Persistence
- I prefer that they hold to ideals
- I prefer that they are relational and that this impacts their decisions.
- I prefer ethical protagonists (but find deceptive characters fun.)
I don't care about sword fighting and archery, particularly in a female protagonist. If that is all she has I am not interested in her.
There is a sexist notion 'out there' that one strength of the female gender is being the go between, the oil in the system, the sweet and soft middle between two crusty oreo cookies. This idea can be taken to an extreme (bad; stereotypical). But to write those qualities out of the story in an effort to make a female protagonist 'stronger,' is a mistake. If the female pro-tag does not have insightful and relational qualities, then someone else in the story needs to. In my opinion. A story should have relationship as an element.
What I dislike in female protagonists is a direct mimicking of a historically classic male protagonist, particularly when such characters lose the qualities (above) that I think are intriguing.
I am not looking for a witch or a magical power. I like female protagonists that buck the system, such as the Renunciates on Darkover. they have their code worked out, they are true to it, they face opposition from society, they persevere, and (very incidentally) some fight with swords.
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As a female reader of SF/F who enjoys fantasy books with protagonists of whatever gender and plot, my advice is:
Make it interesting.
- It doesn't matter if the basic plot structure is older than dirt. Your details are what make it fresh.
- Make the characters people I can believe in, and care about. Don't just write "a strong female protagonist." Write an interesting female protagonist. Write a protagonist with flaws. With bad habits. With a weird hobby. With a string of past loves. With one or more children/pets/familiars/personalities/personal deities.
- She doesn't have to be a warrior, leader, sorceress, etc. so long as she has agency in her own story. She can be totally happy to be a wife and mother if that's what she wants and the plot rewards her for it.
- Make her somebody I enjoy hanging out with, even if I wouldn't make her choices or do the things she does. Give me something to like about her, something to root for. She doesn't have to be perfect. She can make stupid decisions and rash mistakes. But make her decisions understandable.
- If she's the protagonist, she needs her own agenda which isn't driven by a third party (of whatever gender). She needs her own plot, her own drives.
The Hero's Journey is the archetypal fantasy plot, so by all means use that if you want, but I don't pick up a "fantasy book with a female protagonist" and only expect a Hero's Journey.
What I expect is someone I will want to spend three or four hours of reading with.
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