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Q&A How do you assess the value of an individual scene?

So, the question is, how reliable is the advice: If the reader doesn't need it, cut it. If the scene doesn't progress the plot, cut it.[emphasis added] I think you are conflating "needed" with...

posted 6y ago by John Wu‭  ·  last activity 5y ago by System‭

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#3: Attribution notice added by user avatar System‭ · 2019-12-08T08:26:28Z (about 5 years ago)
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#2: Initial revision by user avatar John Wu‭ · 2019-12-08T08:26:28Z (about 5 years ago)
> So, the question is, how reliable is the advice: If the reader doesn't need it, cut it. If the scene doesn't progress **_the plot_** , cut it.[emphasis added]

I think you are conflating "needed" with "related to the plot." Here's some examples of material that may be critical to a story but not directly plot-related.

- It may relate to an important **sub-plot** , e.g. progressing the story of Kenobi passing knowledge to Skywalker.

- It may relate to critical **character development** , e.g. the setup of Solo as an mercenary whose personal story (his progression to pro bono heroism) must resolve for the main plot to resolve.

- It may act as **setup for a callback** later, e.g. the setup of Solo as an atheist would later be called back when he bid Leia "May the Force be with you" during an emotional goodbye.

- It may be part of **greater narrative** , e.g. the longstanding relationship among wookie and droids, which spans many of the films.

- It may serve as **setup for the next scene,** e.g. morphing levity into forboding as the protogonists approach a particularly dangerous area.

- It may serve a **specific marketing purpose** , e.g. if a stakeholder in the production hoped to merchandise themed chess sets.

#1: Imported from external source by user avatar System‭ · 2018-03-30T08:40:55Z (over 6 years ago)
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