My kid's first story

Since he is 11, he probably has not even studied grammar explicitly in school (that's 6th grade). he has probably studied sentence structure and so it would be ok to correct a fragmented sentence but I would not bother trying to correct a comma splice. It is not that helpful to correct something that he is doing wrong if there is very little chance of him knowing it is wrong. And as for character and plot mistakes, that would also be beyond the scope of 5th-grade writing. In order to not burn him out on writing, accept it for what it is: the work of a child. And it sounds like it was a longer story than most 5th-graders would be willing to write. Correct only those issues that he has been properly taught to correct himself.

P.S. grammar is taught throughout middle school starting in second grade and does not stop until high school and sometimes college. based on his age I would assume (this varies by school or teaching method) that he should know:

basic sentence structure: subject vs. predicate
basic tenses: past vs. present
basic word types: noun vs. pronoun vs. adjective
end of sentence punctuation: . vs. ? vs. !

and that is about it. in 6th-grade he would learn:

comma usage
clauses
the spelling of commonly misspelled words
lots of vocabulary
how to properly check a paper for basic grammatical errors

and a more thorough in-depth review of the previously covered subjects.

posted about 6 years ago

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z_temp_string‭

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I would imagine his reactions have more to do with being 11 than with any long-term issues. I would focus on giving praise and encouraging more writing; mastery will come with practice, and if he becomes discouraged by negative feedback, he may very well give up. Considering that you are his parent, unless he asks for constructive critique, I would not offer it. Odds are good that he isn't looking for that sort of feedback, but for the usually sort of parental feedback of "Oh, this is great, I especially loved XYZ, I'm so proud of you for finishing this!"

Unrequested critiques can be annoying to anyone, but especially for a child, I would be extremely careful. Does his story need help? Almost certainly. Everything I wrote at that age was a pile of tropey, unenjoyable garbage. But unless he asks for a critique, I would err on the side of assuming that he is just looking for encouragement and support.

The best way to ensure that your son gets better at writing fiction is to ensure he keeps writing. The best way to do that is to make sure he doesn't get discouraged.

posted about 6 years ago

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Blue Caboose‭

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What is "the right way"? Why do you consider it better than some other way to write a story? What do you consider "mistakes"?

You can ask your son about why he has made certain stylistic choices or plot choices, but at the end of the day, those are his choices to make. You can criticise aspects of the story that you feel are unoriginal, or have unfortunate implications, or do not work in your opinion for some other reasons. But those are not "mistakes" - those are artistic choices that you disagree with.

Spelling and grammar mistakes are not relevant either - they are secondary to the act of creation. You can point out that a certain word is spelled a certain way, but you shouldn't be focusing on that. Spelling and grammar are skills that your son will learn with time, regardless of whether he develops his writing skill or not. Going over those too much at this stage is focusing on minutiae, and ignoring the more important act of creating a story. In your son's place, I would be very much disappointed if I presented someone a story, and that's all they could see.

Really, I don't think that you should criticise. Just as you wouldn't criticise a child's painting for being "derivative" or for "lacking in expression". Instead, be specific with your praise. Don't say "this is very good". Mention instead what you particularly liked about the story - what you thought was original and interesting, expressive, etc.

And as @TotumusMaximus says, let your son read books in the genres that interest him, so that he may learn by observing the Masters.

posted about 6 years ago

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Galastel‭

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Now that you know how you son reacts to criticism, why not just praise him but perhaps occassionaly mention one thing that could have made it a better story? Maybe this criticism will be taken on board for the next story he writes for you?

What you definately don't want to do is to discourage him at this early stage, as to be honest, most of his work is disposable practice. Ask yourself whether you'd be critical of a painting he'd spent time making for you? Probably not.

My own daughter is in a similar position. She absolutely loves the process of writing and producing a piece of work with illustrations for me to read, but like your son, when she'd finished, she's finished!

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Mississippi‭

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You have already received very valuable inputs from the community, however, I would like to add my 50 cents to it.

I am a semi-professional writer, web developing and civil engineering being my primary profession. As a high school kid, I used to jot down my fantasies in my journal which probably were full of grammatical errors and semantic abuse. They were perfect to my own eyes though.

Now after a decade, I became a civil engineer (full time) and a web developer (part-time). Two years back, I revisited my old stuff and found my journal book. As I read through my own scribbled sentences I realized how wonderful my plots and stories were and how easily I could correct them. I did just that! I needed no professional editor to do it for me and I got it published in 6 months.

I would say, encourage and advice him but don't be abrupt with your advice or rectifications. There is a probability that you would unknowingly discourage or make him feel that his work is not being appreciated and isn't worth continuing.

His self-confidence will take him to a higher ground when the time is right. There are many matured writers who aren't confident enough of their works and goes around seeking feedbacks which sometimes just kicks back!

NB: Get him involved in writing social site groups. It would help him beyond your comprehension. We have a 12-year-old girl in our facebook group who is releasing her debut fictional novel this month!

posted about 6 years ago

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Aga Rengma‭

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Leave the corrections to his teachers, that's what they're for. The best you can do as his parent is encourage creative habits.

Talking from personal experience; around his age I wrote my first short story. It was horrible: no plot, plenty of spelling and grammatical errors, etc. But it ignited my love for writing. I honestly believe it was because neither my parents nor teacher overly criticized the errors that I took the time to read more and to pay more attention in English classes. I would not call myself a great writer, but have some published short stories, and I find it a great hobby.

As others have said, let him know what you like about it and ask specific questions (always show interest in their interests). Bolster his confidence, he'll learn in higher classes what to do right and wrong in this art. That's only his first draft, eventually he'll want to perfect it on his own. This time period is for growth.

posted about 6 years ago

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poeticvampire‭

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Though he looks forward to my praise, which I surely do, he gets bored every time I try to outline his flaws in the story.

• That's pretty standard 11-year-old-boy behavior. I peeked at their handbook recently and there's a whole section on how to keep your parents from bugging you about stuff you don't want to do. I bet you'd get the same bored look if you were to point out mistakes in his math homework.

• As a new writer, he might be feeling especially defensive about his story. He might feel that making the corrections you've pointed out will make the story a little less his and a little more yours.

• At some point in the future, separate from this story, have a discussion about what editors do, i.e. they help writers make what they mean to say clear to readers. Most writers have editors that give them good, honest feedback on all aspects of their work, from plots and themes to spelling and grammar. Assure him that despite that, it's still the author's story, not the editor's.

posted about 6 years ago

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Caleb‭

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