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Meta Please gray out the usernames of automatically-imported accounts on the main Users listing

Hi! I'm an SE user and I'm here because I'm curious about what's happening here and because I support the goals of this site. I have one quibble with what's being presented here, that I hope you u...

2 answers  ·  posted 4y ago by E.P.‭  ·  last activity 4y ago by celtschk‭

#3: Post edited by user avatar E.P.‭ · 2020-02-22T13:31:43Z (over 4 years ago)
  • Hi! I'm an SE user and I'm here because I'm curious about what's happening here and because I support the goals of this site.
  • I have one quibble with what's being presented here, that I hope you understand and can act upon. I also want to couple that with some background on the same issue cropping up on a previous build-an-outside-site experience.
  • Specifically, I'm concerned about [the main Users listing](https://writing.codidact.com/users),
  • > [![enter image description here][1]][1]
  • [1]: https://i.stack.imgur.com/dZdmU.png
  • which contains several accounts that were auto-imported from Stack Exchange without direct input from their authors (generally because they're part of a bigger thread that got imported because someone requested another post on that thread to be imported). The highest-scoring such account on the listing is currently [Chris Sunami](https://writing.codidact.com/users/36).
  • Now, the profile pages themselves are clearly labelled with the text
  • > This user was automatically created as the author of content sourced from Stack Exchange.
  • > The original profile on Stack Exchange can be found here: https://writers.stackexchange.com/u/10479.
  • that explains what's going on. **However, this is not visible from the main listing**, and I would argue that this is essentially in breach of the CC BY-SA 3.0 license, specifically the provision in §4.c that states
  • > You may not implicitly or explicitly assert or imply any connection with, sponsorship or endorsement by the Original Author, Licensor and/or Attribution Parties, as appropriate, of You or Your use of the Work, without the separate, express prior written permission of the Original Author, Licensor and/or Attribution Parties.
  • Now, **I know this is being done in good faith**, but I think that if a site like this aims to improve on SE and to get everything right, it should do better.
  • For some context, a previous build-a-parallel attempt, [PhysicsOverflow](https://www.physicsoverflow.org/), got this pretty catastrophically wrong when they started (It's still not great, but I guess it's OK); you can see some of the clashes involved on [this Meta PhysicsOverflow thread](https://www.physicsoverflow.org/22226/mark-names-stack-exchange-users-have-claimed-their-accounts) and [this Meta MathOverflow thread](https://meta.mathoverflow.net/questions/2024). There were a fair number of people whose accounts used their real names and who were not happy to see those real names being used to "bulk up" the users listing on a site they previously knew nothing about. Which, I would argue, amounted to the implicit implication of sponsorship by the author of the new collection, in contravention of the CC clause quoted above. I hope this site can show that there are better ways to handle this, in the same way that it has shown that there's better ways to handle the 3.0 / 4.0 mix than what SE did.
  • Now, **I know that the current software is temporary**, and that as such it doesn't necessarily make sense to alter it too much. But please take this into account when the new software comes online.
  • (Also, I'm not very familiar with where the conversation about building the Codidact software is happening, but I'll be happy to post this concern there, if it hasn't been posted already, if you show me where to do so.)
  • Many thanks in advance!
  • Hi! I'm an SE user and I'm here because I'm curious about what's happening here and because I support the goals of this site.
  • I have one quibble with what's being presented here, that I hope you understand and can act upon. I also want to couple that with some background on the same issue cropping up on a previous build-an-outside-site experience.
  • Specifically, I'm concerned about [the main Users listing](https://writing.codidact.com/users),
  • > [![enter image description here][1]][1]
  • [1]: https://i.stack.imgur.com/dZdmU.png
  • which contains several accounts that were auto-imported from Stack Exchange without direct input from their authors (generally because they're part of a bigger thread that got imported because someone requested another post on that thread to be imported). The highest-scoring such account on the listing is currently [Chris Sunami](https://writing.codidact.com/users/36).
  • Now, the profile pages themselves are clearly labelled with the text
  • > This user was automatically created as the author of content sourced from Stack Exchange.
  • > The original profile on Stack Exchange can be found here: https://writers.stackexchange.com/u/10479.
  • that explains what's going on. **However, this is not visible from the main listing**, and I would argue that this is essentially in breach of the CC BY-SA 3.0 license, specifically the provision in §4.c that states
  • > You may not implicitly or explicitly assert or imply any connection with, sponsorship or endorsement by the Original Author, Licensor and/or Attribution Parties, as appropriate, of You or Your use of the Work, without the separate, express prior written permission of the Original Author, Licensor and/or Attribution Parties.
  • Now, **I know this is being done in good faith**, but I think that if a site like this aims to improve on SE and to get everything right, it should do better.
  • For some context, a previous build-a-parallel attempt, [PhysicsOverflow](https://www.physicsoverflow.org/), got this pretty catastrophically wrong when they started (It's still not great, but I guess it's OK); you can see some of the clashes involved on [this Meta PhysicsOverflow thread](https://www.physicsoverflow.org/22226/mark-names-stack-exchange-users-have-claimed-their-accounts) and [this Meta MathOverflow thread](https://meta.mathoverflow.net/questions/2024). There were a fair number of people whose accounts used their real names and who were not happy to see those real names being used to "bulk up" the users listing on a site they previously knew nothing about. Which, I would argue, amounted to the implicit implication of sponsorship by the author of the new collection, in contravention of the CC clause quoted above. I hope this site can show that there are better ways to handle this, in the same way that it has shown that there's better ways to handle the 3.0 / 4.0 mix than what SE did.
  • Now, **I know that the current software is temporary**, and that as such it doesn't necessarily make sense to alter it too much. But please take this into account when the new software comes online.
  • (Also, I'm not very familiar with where the conversation about building the Codidact software is happening, but I'll be happy to post this concern there, if it hasn't been posted already, if you show me where to do so.)
  • Many thanks in advance for listening!
#2: Post edited by user avatar E.P.‭ · 2020-02-22T13:31:05Z (over 4 years ago)
  • Hi! I'm an SE user and I'm here because I'm curious about what's happening here and because I support the goals of this site.
  • I have one quibble with what's being presented here, that I hope you understand and can act upon. I also want to couple that with some background on the same issue cropping up on a previous build-an-outside-site experience.
  • Specifically, I'm concerned about [the main Users listing](https://writing.codidact.com/users),
  • [![enter image description here][1]][1]
  • [1]: https://i.stack.imgur.com/dZdmU.png
  • which contains several accounts that were auto-imported from Stack Exchange without direct input from their authors (generally because they're part of a bigger thread that got imported because someone requested another post on that thread to be imported). The highest-scoring such account on the listing is currently [Chris Sunami](https://writing.codidact.com/users/36).
  • Now, the profile pages themselves are clearly labelled with the text
  • > This user was automatically created as the author of content sourced from Stack Exchange.
  • > The original profile on Stack Exchange can be found here: https://writers.stackexchange.com/u/10479.
  • that explains what's going on. **However, this is not visible from the main listing**, and I would argue that this is essentially in breach of the CC BY-SA 3.0 license, specifically the provision in §4.c that states
  • > You may not implicitly or explicitly assert or imply any connection with, sponsorship or endorsement by the Original Author, Licensor and/or Attribution Parties, as appropriate, of You or Your use of the Work, without the separate, express prior written permission of the Original Author, Licensor and/or Attribution Parties.
  • Now, **I know this is being done in good faith**, but I think that if a site like this aims to improve on SE and to get everything right, it should do better.
  • For some context, a previous build-a-parallel attempt, [PhysicsOverflow](https://www.physicsoverflow.org/), got this pretty catastrophically wrong when they started (It's still not great, but I guess it's OK); you can see some of the clashes involved on [this Meta PhysicsOverflow thread](https://www.physicsoverflow.org/22226/mark-names-stack-exchange-users-have-claimed-their-accounts) and [this Meta MathOverflow thread](https://meta.mathoverflow.net/questions/2024). There were a fair number of people whose accounts used their real names and who were not happy to see those real names being used to "bulk up" the users listing on a site they previously knew nothing about. Which, I would argue, amounted to the implicit implication of sponsorship by the author of the new collection, in contravention of the CC clause quoted above. I hope this site can show that there are better ways to handle this, in the same way that it has shown that there's better ways to handle the 3.0 / 4.0 mix than what SE did.
  • Now, **I know that the current software is temporary**, and that as such it doesn't necessarily make sense to alter it too much. But please take this into account when the new software comes online.
  • (Also, I'm not very familiar with where the conversation about building the Codidact software is happening, but I'll be happy to post this concern there, if it hasn't been posted already, if you show me where to do so.)
  • Many thanks in advance!
  • Hi! I'm an SE user and I'm here because I'm curious about what's happening here and because I support the goals of this site.
  • I have one quibble with what's being presented here, that I hope you understand and can act upon. I also want to couple that with some background on the same issue cropping up on a previous build-an-outside-site experience.
  • Specifically, I'm concerned about [the main Users listing](https://writing.codidact.com/users),
  • > [![enter image description here][1]][1]
  • [1]: https://i.stack.imgur.com/dZdmU.png
  • which contains several accounts that were auto-imported from Stack Exchange without direct input from their authors (generally because they're part of a bigger thread that got imported because someone requested another post on that thread to be imported). The highest-scoring such account on the listing is currently [Chris Sunami](https://writing.codidact.com/users/36).
  • Now, the profile pages themselves are clearly labelled with the text
  • > This user was automatically created as the author of content sourced from Stack Exchange.
  • > The original profile on Stack Exchange can be found here: https://writers.stackexchange.com/u/10479.
  • that explains what's going on. **However, this is not visible from the main listing**, and I would argue that this is essentially in breach of the CC BY-SA 3.0 license, specifically the provision in §4.c that states
  • > You may not implicitly or explicitly assert or imply any connection with, sponsorship or endorsement by the Original Author, Licensor and/or Attribution Parties, as appropriate, of You or Your use of the Work, without the separate, express prior written permission of the Original Author, Licensor and/or Attribution Parties.
  • Now, **I know this is being done in good faith**, but I think that if a site like this aims to improve on SE and to get everything right, it should do better.
  • For some context, a previous build-a-parallel attempt, [PhysicsOverflow](https://www.physicsoverflow.org/), got this pretty catastrophically wrong when they started (It's still not great, but I guess it's OK); you can see some of the clashes involved on [this Meta PhysicsOverflow thread](https://www.physicsoverflow.org/22226/mark-names-stack-exchange-users-have-claimed-their-accounts) and [this Meta MathOverflow thread](https://meta.mathoverflow.net/questions/2024). There were a fair number of people whose accounts used their real names and who were not happy to see those real names being used to "bulk up" the users listing on a site they previously knew nothing about. Which, I would argue, amounted to the implicit implication of sponsorship by the author of the new collection, in contravention of the CC clause quoted above. I hope this site can show that there are better ways to handle this, in the same way that it has shown that there's better ways to handle the 3.0 / 4.0 mix than what SE did.
  • Now, **I know that the current software is temporary**, and that as such it doesn't necessarily make sense to alter it too much. But please take this into account when the new software comes online.
  • (Also, I'm not very familiar with where the conversation about building the Codidact software is happening, but I'll be happy to post this concern there, if it hasn't been posted already, if you show me where to do so.)
  • Many thanks in advance!
#1: Initial revision by user avatar E.P.‭ · 2020-02-22T13:30:51Z (over 4 years ago)
Hi! I'm an SE user and I'm here because I'm curious about what's happening here and because I support the goals of this site.

I have one quibble with what's being presented here, that I hope you understand and can act upon. I also want to couple that with some background on the same issue cropping up on a previous build-an-outside-site experience.

Specifically, I'm concerned about [the main Users listing](https://writing.codidact.com/users),

[![enter image description here][1]][1]

  [1]: https://i.stack.imgur.com/dZdmU.png

which contains several accounts that were auto-imported from Stack Exchange without direct input from their authors (generally because they're part of a bigger thread that got imported because someone requested another post on that thread to be imported). The highest-scoring such account on the listing is currently [Chris Sunami](https://writing.codidact.com/users/36).

Now, the profile pages themselves are clearly labelled with the text

> This user was automatically created as the author of content sourced from Stack Exchange.

> The original profile on Stack Exchange can be found here: https://writers.stackexchange.com/u/10479.

that explains what's going on. **However, this is not visible from the main listing**, and I would argue that this is essentially in breach of the CC BY-SA 3.0 license, specifically the provision in §4.c that states

> You may not implicitly or explicitly assert or imply any connection with, sponsorship or endorsement by the Original Author, Licensor and/or Attribution Parties, as appropriate, of You or Your use of the Work, without the separate, express prior written permission of the Original Author, Licensor and/or Attribution Parties.

Now, **I know this is being done in good faith**, but I think that if a site like this aims to improve on SE and to get everything right, it should do better. 

For some context, a previous build-a-parallel attempt, [PhysicsOverflow](https://www.physicsoverflow.org/), got this pretty catastrophically wrong when they started (It's still not great, but I guess it's OK); you can see some of the clashes involved on [this Meta PhysicsOverflow thread](https://www.physicsoverflow.org/22226/mark-names-stack-exchange-users-have-claimed-their-accounts) and [this Meta MathOverflow thread](https://meta.mathoverflow.net/questions/2024). There were a fair number of people whose accounts used their real names and who were not happy to see those real names being used to "bulk up" the users listing on a site they previously knew nothing about. Which, I would argue, amounted to the implicit implication of sponsorship by the author of the new collection, in contravention of the CC clause quoted above. I hope this site can show that there are better ways to handle this, in the same way that it has shown that there's better ways to handle the 3.0 / 4.0 mix than what SE did.

Now, **I know that the current software is temporary**, and that as such it doesn't necessarily make sense to alter it too much. But please take this into account when the new software comes online.

(Also, I'm not very familiar with where the conversation about building the Codidact software is happening, but I'll be happy to post this concern there, if it hasn't been posted already, if you show me where to do so.)

Many thanks in advance!