Is it expected that a reader will skip parts of what you write?

I'd rarely skim a fiction since it has some continuity, but articles are different. Article is supposed to provide information, and if the information density is low, I'll start skimming and looking for things that are actually new and interesting.

Especially with the boom of click-baity internet magazines, I often skim a lot of the article. So keep in mind that an article is only worth writing as long as it contains new information, be it a fact or interesting opinion. Dragging out an article about something banal is a waste of times, there's enough of those already.

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Tomáš Zato - Reinstate Monica‭

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In my experience, it depends on what is being read.

Personally, I often skim large parts of technical material. I am often reading for something specific and I skim until I find it. I often then stop completely. So, for non-fiction material I would say skimming is fairly common and for material that is at least partially meant to be a reference skimming should be expected and the document is most useful when written with that in mind using lots of clear headings and typographical methods (such as bolding) to highlight the most important sections.

However, I suspect you are largely talking about fiction. While I know others approach things differently, I almost never skim fiction. If fiction is engrossing, then I want to read it in detail. If fiction is not engrossing, then I will not read it at all. Fiction should be written so that the reader wants to read all of it and ideally so that the reader wishes there had been more.

I know some beta readers in particular will skim, but I do not do this as a beta reader and try to politely ask my beta readers not to. I try to give very detailed feedback which means I pay more attention when I'm a beta reader, not less.

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TimothyAWiseman‭

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In your particular circumstance: No. That is not normal.

If I am given something to provide feedback, then I will read it all; OR I will read it all until I have seen enough to not bother reading the rest. Then I will provide my advice, and if I didn't finish it I will tell them where I stopped, and why I stopped.

Usually if I stop it is because the same mistake is being made repeatedly and needs to be fixed to make the text readable.

Don't trust the person giving the feedback, especially on story elements or character building; they aren't reading enough to tell you anything useful. Find another test reader, or compare yourself to a published author you like, or check your writing against published advice by professionals. Any of those are better than a half-ass job from somebody that clearly doesn't know how to review writing; or just doesn't enjoy reading, or doesn't want to tell you they don't like your writing.

EDIT to respond to OP's comment; the person I had given this to had also given me things of his for immediate review.

Ah. I'd suggest a modification to your arrangement, if he is willing. Exchange things to review each week, but instead of going over this week's exchange, go over last week's exchange.

Unfortunately, praise may make you feel good, but is not very effective at review. Instead the best reviews are negative.

So I would try to agree that the reviews WILL be all negative, so both of you expect that, but also keep it impersonal and clinically negative. What seemed to stall, what didn't make sense, what seemed unrealistic or contrived (in prose or dialogue), what was confusing on first read. What needs some imagery, or color, or feeling, or sensation. Do some clinical work on his submission without the pressure of him watching you. Refrain from praise, the best thing you can say about a paragraph is "I couldn't find anything wrong with this."

I'd agree up front, you don't make excuses or argue about this or insist you are right. You can ask for clarifications, but take your punches. You don't have to agree with him!

Receive his clinical opinion knowing it is not going to be praise, but 100% critical. Don't get your feelings hurt because he did not enthuse, your handshake agreement is that he won't get enthused, and neither will you!

The problem with praise is giving it can create resentment in the giver if it is not returned in equal measure or frequency, and for many of us, receiving praise feels like we have an obligation to reciprocate even if reciprocation is undeserved; so we lie, or hold back in our criticism, as a favor in return for the praise.

This is less of a problem with clinical criticism; by which I mean the criticism is not insulting, it is just noting where things don't read smoothly, or seem too long, or too abrupt, or otherwise causes cognitive dissonance that breaks reader immersion.

Because unlike praise you don't feel like you are giving somebody something nice. You don't feel like they owe you anything, because it feels like you are giving them bitter medicine.

But in reality, what you are giving him is what he needs most, honest criticism without being brutal or mean, so he can improve his writing.

Once you are done with your reviews, put the writing aside and do something more pleasant. Have lunch or talk about movies or books or TV or something fiction related. Anything so you don't leave on the negative notes; otherwise you will get tired of these meetings.

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Amadeus‭

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In Technical Writing, it's expected that readers don't want to read what you write. In fact, I used to teach with a book with that on the cover
(see the notepad):

(basically - Tech Writing people only read the bits they NEED for the info they need to make a decision or take action. For fiction, though, things are for pleasure, and while people may read fast, like for a thriller (and miss details/depth), they don't skip bits.)

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April Salutes Monica C.‭

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In my experience, people don't do this for significant part of the writing. It may happen to skip a sentence or two if, either:

1. the passages are not clear,
2. the reader is tired,
3. there is a "wall of text" effect
4. the narration style is boring, repetitive or dragging

While you can't do anything for point 2, you can somehow fight against 1, 3, and 4.

Of course, your story shouldn't be boring or repetitive. Yet, what one finds boring my be amusing to another. I'm not a fan of flowery descriptions of architectural elements, a friend of mine is. Some stylistic elements may have to be targeted to your audience.

However, we're talking about few sentences each time. I honestly don't know anyone who skips the middle of each paragraph by default, because at that point you're not even reading. It makes much more sense to stop reading altogether.

So, if you are skipping parts consistently, you're doing it to get to the end faster. It seems to me the goal of an annoyed beta-reader, rather than a bored reader.

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Liquid‭

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